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Edmond Wollmann has made "hitlists" of many, many people, all of whom share a similar distinction: they either disagree with his views or criticize his Netcopping. That's all it takes to get on Wollmann's list and for him to begin a campaign of complaints against a user. He has also admitted he will go after people's careers and businesses, and has targetted USENET as a whole. He has also mounted a campaign against websites he does not like, an example is documented here
From: Edmond Wollmann
<arcturian1@earthlink.net> Lady Nidiffer wrote: Snip! And I will be here to bring all of you bigots to everyones attention so they can see how lazy, rationalizing, two faced and incompetant you are to do so. I will publish, protest, advertise, and in any way I can prove your predjudice and poor and unfair judgments, and abuse of your positions. The following persons have no knowledge of astrology-0. Therefore much as they might like to, or think they can, they cannot really argue it coherently, but are only neophytes themselves in the position of asking questions. They have demonstrated they are here with negative intentions only to harrass, demean, defame, libel and derogate astrology and astrologers. They all have agendas and bias and therefore cannot render objective opinions. Either killfile them or ignore them. I will update it every so often so as to keep the real astrologers and interested informed of the charlatans. It is they who trigger these posts, not I, it is THEY who trigger complaints. Please help clean up usenet to allow it to be the powerful tool for informational exchange it can be. I am happy to report much progress since my last post and the list is dwindeling as these troublemakers discover it is not worth it simply to be negative and off topic. Thanks for your attention. anonym@pacbell.net- Pacbell Internet is the major abuser at this time, never makes any constructive posts or astrology AT ALL. Pacbell has supported him even though he has sent me unsolicited e-mail on many occasions, violated Pacbell's AUP repeatedly by harassing me and posting off topic PURPOSELY to disrupt, they never returned phone calls to me, abused me on the phone, flatly denied and lied about anonym's abuse and will lose their jobs if I have anything to do with it; http://public.pacbell.net:8001/dialup/usepolicy.html#news 1)Messages posted to newsgroups must comply with the written charters or FAQs for those newsgroups. 2)You may not post messages for the purpose of threatening, harassing or intimidating others. ^^^^^^^^^^ The same goes for concentric.net-who violates their own stated AUP simply to support "widdershins" so he can call me names and disrupt by posting libelous material off topic in metapsych. They send me autobot responses while they ignore their users tremendous abuse-all so he can call me a liar and fraud etc. day in and day out; http://home.concentric.net/support/tos/ 13. Member expressly agrees not to use the CNC Service in a manner that is prohibited by any law or regulation or to facilitate the violation of any law or regulation. Member further agrees not to use the Service in a manner that will disrupt third parties' use or enjoyment of the CNC Service or other communications services and outlets. Member acknowledges that prohibited conduct includes, but is not limited to, use of the Service to invade the privacy of third parties, impersonation of CNC personnel, transmitting via e-mail, USENET, chat service or the Member's personal web page or site, abusive, profane, libelous, slanderous, threatening or otherwise harassing material and posting material in any USENET or newsgroup that is off-topic according to the charter or other public statement of the USENET or newsgroup. Member also agrees not to use the Service to solicit other members to patronize competing services, not to violate or tamper with the security of the CNC Service or attempt to utilize another member's account name or persona without authorization from that member. Tom Kerr and prodigy.net will be listed highest for ignoring abuse only second to Pacbell. Here are the regular abusers at this time in alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych -bigots that NEVER present any arguments and are allowed to disrupt, spam the same derogating messages, and abuse usenet as if they own it-and then bragg about their abuse on top of it; Dr. Matt University of Michigan Bob Officer ivn.net Bill Keesing supernews.com Taylor Netscum mindspring.com Paul Schlyter over 4 years Prem Thomas demon.net Rick Ellis earthlink.net and ftel.net Demon.net Lady Nidiffer abs.net truth@beauty.com earthlink and sprintlink PZ myers netaxs.com dr. digger ptialaska.net Dr. John digital.net J White hooked.net Gary Burnore databasix.com who pacbell supported while he called Marsha a slut and all sorts of names-I guess these ISPs think its real important for him to call people whores all day everyday. What sort of mentality must one have to believe this is a free speech issue? The only free speech issue is their attempt to thwart intelligent discussion of astrology and psychology. This is GARBAGE, thats all these idiots post and I will stay here to remind the ISPs of their abusers as long as these abusers harass, and defame with their same content messages SPAM-if it takes me years (I have been doing it for two now). These bigots have no intention other than to derogate things they know nothing about. Thanks for your attention. -- Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A. © 1998 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603 Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/ Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/ SDSU http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~wollmann/ From: Edmond Wollmann
<Pleiadian1@worldnett.att.net> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
Follow ups set to
alt.astrology
David G. Goggin wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 1998 20:28:47
-0700, Edmond Wollmann > (w@astroconsulting.com) says in
article >
<35639F6F.4968@astroconsulting.com>... > > Scot Mc Pherson
wrote:
> > > I am leaving. You do
nothing except argue. You can't find the good > > > articles and posts.
They are the needles in the haystack.
> > > Bye
> > > Scot Action is the conviction of
belief-that's why I ACT ON MY CONVICTIONS.
> > Well, you are welcome to
stay and ignore whatever. I still answer >
PMFJI, but you'd have a lot more success if you ignored
the spam
You still don't get it? It's not me
partner.
> and senseless bickering. By
responding, even in a threatening way (or > actually, especially in a
threatening way) you guarantee it will > continue. The only thing these
folks can't stand is silence.
>
Mark my words.
The only thing they won't be able
to stand is when I start bringing in their careers and informing their
connections of their abuse. They have tried to ruin mine and my credibility
here because they are bigots and fear my book. And by the end of the
year you will see I was correct-mark my words.
Look at the posts I posted with
Lazzwaldo and Rick Ellis businesses (pretty sure of Rick Lazzarini-not so
sure about Rick Ellis). Until now they have gone unscathed-that will now
change since the ISPs have been protecting them because they have
money. I am afraid you are naive. I am a VERY good astrologer, and I don't
boldly go where my charting hasn't been. I don't say I will succeed
unless I know I will. And I am here to serve by doing this-if it bothers you,
ignore it. I am not a coward. Best to you. This is not a
flame. -- "I'm not askin for an easy passage, so I
hope you'll understand. I'm not after any special treatment-but I wouldn't
mind a hand! On a rough ride to heaven. Want to get inside what'll I do?
On a rough ride to heaven, want to get inside to be with you." Paul
McCartney "Rough Ride" -- Edmond H. Wollmann
P.M.A.F.A. © 1998 Altair Publications, SAN
299-5603 Astrological Consulting
http://www.astroconsulting.com/
From: Edmond Wollmann
<wollmann@sdsu.edu> Follow ups set to
alt.astrology
David G. Goggin wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 1998 20:28:47 -0700, Edmond Wollmann > (w@astroconsulting.com) says in article > <35639F6F.4968@astroconsulting.com >...
> > Scot Mc Pherson wrote:
> > > I am leaving. You do nothing except argue. You can't find the good
> > > Bye
> > > Scot Acting rightly may be taking
action.
> > Well, you are welcome to stay
and ignore whatever. I still answer >
PMFJI, but you'd have a lot more success if you ignored the
spam >
Mark my words.
The only thing they won't be able to
stand is if someone is trying to ruin their credibility and status in THEIR
fields of interest and profession. The only way that they will stop their abuse
(since ISPs won't take responsibility for them) is if their abuse
is known in the groups where THEIR careers are at stake. They come here
and abuse these groups unabated while the groups of their interest
are unscathed. Thay are abusing alt.astrology.metapsych day
in and day out. You watch, if I crosspost to their groups they will
start whining bigtime! Mark my words.
Anonym@pacbell.net,
Altair12@mydejanews.com (AKA LazzWaldo-Rick Lazzarini) and Rick Ellis (UU.net and
earthlink.net) are the worst abusers of this group and have been here for
almost a year now obsessively spamming off topic.
http://www.cinenet.com/~waldo/links.html
http://www.character-shop.com/anteater.html
TCS - TV Appearances -
Miscellaneous more like this... URL:http://www.cinenet.com/~waldo/tvmisc.html Summary: Rick explains that he doesn't just
make gory things, but cutesy things also, like the Duracell toy
commercials. So this Waldo® device integrates it into one operator or as few
operators as possible."
Subject:
Lots of new links added to Studioguru From:
studioguru@earthlink.net (Rick Ellis) I've added lots of new links and articles
thanks to the positive responce and suggestions from people on this
ng.
Keep 'em coming!
Studioguru: The Pro Audio
Resource
www.studioguru.com -- Edmond H. Wollmann
P.M.A.F.A. © 1998 Altair Publications, SAN
299-5603 Astrological Consulting
http://www.astroconsulting.com/
From: Edmond Wollmann
<arcturian1@earthlink.net> Jeffery J. Leader wrote:
> Edmond Wollmann
<arcturian1@earthlink.net> wrote: > I reject the notion of a
"professional" astrologer, but that's beside
I reject the notion of "admin" ruling
usenet.
> the point. You are a kook for
a wide variety of reasons. Please,
And those reasons are son? Because I
understand things you have no inkling of?
> stop flooding nanau with your
off-topic rants and complaints. They
Stop anonym@pacbell.net and other spammer
like sherilyn@demon.net from posting off topic in alt.astrology and
alt.astrology.metapsych and I'll consider not bringing usenet to a
halt.
> are inappropriate, unwanted, unwarranted, and bizarre. Go spoil some I'll do whatever I please-you abuseing
bigots have taught me the law of the land. Now you are going to get it full
force.
> >Do you realize how this will
play in court people? That 40 > Imbecile.
Idiot. Two can play these games and I'll
flame you fuckers off the planet.
> >Forwarded to legal
counsel.
> I encourage you to sue me. Is
there anything I might be able to I've got the post punk when the time
comes I'll gladly include all blithering idiots such as your big mouthed
self. -- Edmond H. Wollmann
P.M.A.F.A. © 1998 Altair Publications, SAN
299-5603 Astrological Consulting
http://www.astroconsulting.com/ Artworks
http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/ SDSU
http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~wollmann/
From: "Wollmann, Edmond
H." <arcturian1@earthlink.net> Your clients are STILL harassing, STILL
spinning, STILL defaming and STILL off topic. And I will remain here with
500 ISPs if need be and bring usenet down until you ISPs find some
integrity and take action against these MORE THAN OBVIOUS
ABUSERS. Get it?
Sherilyn wrote:
> In article
<362b3af6.14786498@news.pcisys.net>, Dan
Kettler > <dan@psicounselSPAM_YOT.com>
writes
> >"Wollmann, Edmond H."
<arcturian1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>Sherilyn wrote:
> >>> >He's threatened to
rip me a new asshole...
> >He also wrote that he would do
it on TV, just like he'd done on > Hmmm, this rather begs the
question. Even the most blinkered Edmond Sherilyn seems to be having a bad day and
is trying his best to cover up his obvious abuse of usenet and a sense of
integrity.
> >Would he want to do physical
violence on TV? With witnesses?
> This is a good question.
Here is the answer. Edmond speaking about
an > insult to a woman, said:
>
"if the son of a bitch was in front of me he'd have
some IF he was there and IF he didn't retract
telling the woman to "fuck herself" for no reason-chivalry is NOT bad
sherilyn, but transvestitism IS a disorder.
This was after Gary Burnore convicted sex
offender in two states told Marsha to "fuck herself" for absolutely no
reason. When I realized the spinics such as sherilyn would see this as a
literal threat rather than a hypothetical, I canceled the post, whereon
Rick Lazzarini (anonym@pacbell.net who tried to threaten
SDSU with a lawsuit if they didn't cancel my account-which they never
did by the way) and Gary Burnore dug it out of the cancel bin and
reposted it over and over like they are doing again now.
> As a result of this threat, Edmond's
provider pulled his posting rights And because they botched the
investigation and were charging me while they left my account in limbo, I have since
filed complaints with the public utilities commision and have others
pending with the state attorney. *I* then canceled the accounts
because they were illegally charging me each month while they denied me
access to my own accounts.
> He has since made harassing
phone calls The employee at Pacbell internet gave me
the phone number idiot! Perhaps they should fire their employees for giving
out numbers they don't want called? Stupid employee then. It was hardly
unlisted.
> [rant snipped]
Sherilyn is the transvestite ranter-the
rest of us deal with truths and real non-ad hominem arguments. He is a fake
transvestite incapable of reasoned arguments and so resorts to ad
hominem attacks and futile twisting-not unlike these other spinics on
usenet I have soundly defeated with real logic.
A spinic is a bigoted and biased
person/group who hides behind the skepticism idea and attempts to belittle a
paradigm or area of interest without investigation, knowledge or study of
any sort in the paradigm/person that is religiously defamed.
The individual or groups then hold dogmatically onto their fallacious
refutation despite all discrediting, academic refutation or
current/past acceptance by a large majority of the populace.
Their actions betray their stated goals
by the malicious defamation despite evidence, and their psychological
denial of facts, refutations and evidenced constructiveness of the
paradigms they seek to denigrate. Ignored are the rights, dignity, choice or
desire for preference of the individuals/groups they seek to destroy
through this propagandic spin and defamation.
The indices listed below are real
referenced academic areas of accepted knowledge that refutes and describes the
fallacious and defective arguments of the typical spinic's attempts
to "color" their defamation as "argument" or disagreement.
CYNIC=From the Greek kynikos, -doglike,
churlish. Philos. one of a sect of ancient Greek philosophers who taught
that pleasure is an evil if sought for its own sake, and made an
ostentatious show of contempt for riches and enjoyment.; sneering faultfinder;
one who disbelieves in the goodness of human motives, and who is given
to displaying his disbelief by sneers and sarcasm-cynicism=the practice
of a cynic; a morose contempt of the pleasures and arts in life.
Lexicon/Webster
Ig no rant=Deficient of knowledge of
either general information or a specific field; uninformed; untaught;
unenlightened-ignorance, the state of being ignorant, or of lacking knowledge;
the condition of not being cognizant or aware of.
Lexicon/Webster..between ignoramus and ignore.
Bigot=a person intolerant of creeds,
opinions etc. other than his own. (Webster College Dict.)
Case # 3,539,080 Conclusion-cynical and unable to acknowledge
larger frameworks within which fragmented knowledge fits.
Psych-Inferiority, persistent feeling
that one does not measure up to societal standards and personal fictional
standards. Ego lock on physicality and the belief that only psychic
material accessible to egoistic functions is "real." Habitual responses. Inability for holistic
cognitions.
Philo-The desire to participate in
emotivism and the inability to remove such judgments. Begging the question vicious
and cyclic argumentation which denies purposeful existence other than
to prove pointlessness. Fear that existence is pointless and
construct development to reinforce this conclusion. Pleasure derived from
invalidating arguments that inspire and improve the human
condition. Inability to understand coherence theory of
truth. Inability to understand the pragmatic theory of
truth.
Frequently indulges in the logical defect
fallacies of;
"Fallacy of suppressed evidence"The
requirement of a true premises includes the proviso that the premises not
ignore some important piece of evidence that outweighs the presented
evidence and entails a very different conclusion. "Red Herring" fallacy="The red herring
fallacy is committed when the arguer diverts the attention of the reader
by changing the subject to some totally different issue. "Missing the point" another fallacy of
relevance-The conclusion of the argument is irrelevant to the premises.
"Missing the point illustrates a special form of irrelevance. This fallacy
occurs when the premises of an argument support one particular conclusion,
but then a different conclusion, often vaguely related to the
correct conclusion is drawn. "Begging the question" occurs when an arguer
uses some form of phraseology that tends to conceal the
questionably true character of a key premise. If the reader or the listener
is deceived into thinking that a key premise is true, he or she will
accept the argument as sound, when in fact, it may not be. "Appeal to the People" (Argumentum ad
Populum) Nearly everyone wants to be loved, esteemed,
admired, valued, recog- nized, and accepted by others. The appeal to
the people uses these desires to get the reader or listener to
accept a conclusion. Two approaches are involved, one of them direct,
the other indirect. The direct approach occurs when an
arguer, addressing a large group of people, excites the emotions and enthusiasm
of the crowd to win acceptance for his conclusion. The objective
is to arouse a kind of mob mentality. (the usenet group
alt.usenet.kooks is used solely for this defect). Their favorite and highly relied upon one is
called "Argument Against the Person" (Argumentum ad
Hominem) This fallacy always involves two arguers.
One of them advances (either directly or implicitly) a certain argument,
and the other then responds by directing his or her attention not to the
first person's argument but to the first person himself. When this
occurs, the second person is said to commit an argument against the
person. Because they will try to discredit THESE
accepted delineations, it should be noted these definitions are taken
from an academic work used in colleges and Universities, Logic, 4th
Edition Hurley, University of San Diego, Wadsworth Publishing, 1991, page
128, "Informal Fallacies".
Sci-Participates in repeated inductive
generalizations. Materialism focused and rigid. Believes that because
information not cognizable by the ego self, it must not exist, delusional
and inability for rigorous investigation prior to conclusions. Projects
that "others" are guilty of this.
Conclusion-Perspective alteration
necessary. Insists on misery and negativity in order to resist the slightest
appearance of a relinquishment of control-which
inadvertently reinforces inferiority feelings. Denial. No known remediation at
this point. Likelihood of future crisis in perspective
great.
Mature individuals can agree to disagree
and recognize that often disagreements simply boil down to
preferences. There is no one truth, except that the truth is the composition of
all truths. Analytical discernment begs for efficiency.
I therefore respectfully beg to differ with spinics and offer sincere
success in their future search for truths (should they decide to act on
their preferences and stop trying to defeat others
preferences).
There is no one truth EXCEPT that THE
truth is the composition of all truths. Absence of evidence is not evidence
of absence-it may be a difference in root assumptions.
My particular "Universes of inquiry" are
psychology and astrology, I respect all inquiry and the paradigms that
articulate them. Paradigms form from sets of beliefs and
assumptions. To clarify the idea of paradigms here is a quote from
experimentation in abnormal psychology taken from Thomas Kuhn's view, author of the
widely acknowledged "The Structure Of Scientific
Revolutions"; "We believe every effort should be made to
study abnormal behavior according to scientific principles. It
should be clear at this point however, that science is NOT a completely
objective and certain enterprise. Rather, as we can infer by the
comment from Kuhn, subjective factors, as well as limitations in our
perspective on the universe, enter into the conduct of scientific
enquiry. Central to any application of scientific principles, in Kuhn's view, is
the concept of a paradigm, a conceptual framework or approach within
which a scientist works. A paradigm according to Kuhn, is a set of
basic assumptions that outline the PARTICULAR UNIVERSE OF SCIENTIFIC
ENQUIRY..." (my emphasis) In addition to injecting inevitable biases
into the definition and collection of data, a paradigm may also
affect the interpretation of facts. In other words, the meaning or import
given to data may depend to a considerable extent on a
paradigm. University of Southern California", State
University of New York" Davidson and Neale, 6th edition, 1996. Wiley
and sons publishers.
"The decision to employ a particular
piece of apparatus and to use it in a particular way carries
with it an assumption that only certain sorts of circumstances will
arise. Normal science research is a strenuous and
devoted attempt to force nature into the conceptual boxes
supplied by the professional education. Anomalies are disregarded because
they do not articulate the paradigm" (Thomas Kuhn).
Or as Einstein said "It is the theory
that determines what we observe."
In short paradigmatical definitions
(beliefs) can affect perception. We don't live by logic and facts we live by
trust-if you disagree with this premise, provide the factual basis and
logical reason and/or purposes for living. If you can't produce
any I suggest you stop living because there is no evidence or "facts"
available to justify and quantify doing it anymore.
"Integrity without knowledge is weak and
useless, and knowledge without integrity is dangerous and
dreadful" Samuel
Johnson
Skeptic=One who doubts the truth of any
principle or system of principles or doctrines. Questioning in the
search for truth.
Cynic=a sneering faultfinder; one who
disbelieves in the goodness of human motives, and who is given to
displaying his disbelief by sneers and sarcasm.
"Knowledge is proud that he has learned
so much; Wisdom is humble that he knows no
more" William Cowper "The Task bk vi" "The Winter Walk at Noon"
"On Pseudo-Skepticism" -- Marcello
Truzzi One of CSICOP's founders exposes his former
compeers. http://www.cloud9.net/~patrick/anomalist/pseudo.html "True Disbelievers: Mars Effect Drives
Skeptics to Irrationality" -- Rich Kammann http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/kammann.html "CSICOP and the Skeptics: An Overview" --
George Hansen Sociological study of the organization; why
they instituted their policy *against* conducting scientific
investigations. ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/ufo/csicop-and-skeptic Part 2: ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/ufo/csicop-and-skeptic.2 "Myths of Skepticism" -- Michael
Sofka Common misconceptions skeptics
have. http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/talk/talk.html "The Astronomer Who Abolished Gravity" --
Robert Anton Wilson In Carl Sagan's debunking of Dr. Velikovsky,
he omitted one minor factor from his calculations: gravity. http://www.tcp.com/~prime8/raw/trigger3.html "Extraordinary Claim? Move the Goal Posts!"
-- Patrick Huyghe How science works, or doesn't. http://www.cloud9.net/~patrick/anomalist/goal.html "CSICOP Scare!" -- Dennis Stacy http://www.cloud9.net/~patrick/anomalist/csicop.html "Robert A. Baker's Unattributed Copying" --
Lippard Copyright violations and plagiarism by a
prominent skeptic. http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/Bakerreport.txt "A New Case of Scientific Serendipity?" --
"Diogenes, Jr." (Marcello Truzzi) Satire on Robert Baker's
plagiarism. http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/baker-diogenes.html "Response to Martin Gardner's Attack on
Reich and Orgone Research in the _Skeptical Inquirer_" -- James
DeMeo http://id.mind.net/community/orgonelab/gardner.htm "Zen and the Art of Debunkery" -- Daniel
Drasin Satire of typical skeptical
manoeuvers. http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/pathskep.html "Sceptic's Can't Play Ball" -- Jenny
Randles Various misdeeds of the local
skeptics. http://www.citadel.co.uk/citadel/eclipse/futura/bufora/times/randles/scept ic.htm "Debunkeritis -- A Partial List" -- Jerome
Clark Satire. http://www.ufobbs.com/txt4/3256.ufo -- Edmond H. Wollmann
P.M.A.F.A. © 1998 Altair Publications, SAN
299-5603 Astrological Consulting
http://www.astroconsulting.com/ Artworks
http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/ SDSU
http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~wollmann/
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